The Book of Shadows
The Lasombra "Anti-Tribu" Page
This is the Guest book. If you wish to make an entry fillout
the form on the main page.
If you just want to read the guest book, then just read it.
It will take a few days for your entries to reach here, as I
have to type everything in manually.
There will be time when I will comment on entries to
this page. These will be only those entries where I feel the
person either needs to be set aright about some thing, or needs
to be enlightnened on some aspect that, over time, he/she might
have forgotten. Of course, I will also comment on entries that
I feel my position on that person's viewpoint must be given.
Of course, I will also give "pep talks" to any (IMO)depressed
Lasombra Anti-Tribu that come here.
9 July 1996-Joshua Henri Bouton, A Sabbat Lasombra of
undisclosed Generation--The page is indeed worthy of a
Lasombra. Although we have basic philisophical disagreements,
I look forward to the day when the Lasombra will be able to
stand together over the remnants of the other Clans.
Sir Horne's Retort: MISTER Bouton, us TRUE Lasombra who kept our loyalty to
Montano, and thus Lasombra, are not out to destroy the other
clans. Although our purpose is to rule, as it has been since
the time of the Second City, we should not rule our inferiors
by breaking their bodies or their spirit. A true ruler is
not a Vlad Tepes or a Macbeth, as you seem to think. A true
ruler is an Elizabeth I or a King Arthur. One does not rule
by destroying his subjects or his advisors. One rules by
insuring the well being of those he rules and by heeding
the words of his advisors. Never forget that because the
other clans are inferior to us is the very reason they must
be ruled wisely. After all, are we not our Brother's Keepers?
Our brothers are not the Lasombra, but all Kindred. For a
time, I was like you, eager to protect the interests of
myself and Clan Lasombra. Then the Camarilla was formed,
and I realized that, although the upstart Clan Tremere was
behind the organization, the Camarilla was(and still is) the
best way to insure the survival of all Kindred. I will never
stop hoping for the eventual reconciliation between the Sabbat
and the Camarilla, but I must be realistic. So, until both sects
are united, I shall, now and forever, throw my lot in with the
10 July 1996, Morgan Demetrius i'Tzimisce, a 5th generation
Tzimisce of the Old Clan--You know, those shadows you employ
are remarkably pushy. Also persistent. An excellent page, I am
impressed, and glad to see the *other* Lasombra skulking about
10 July 1996, Gina Rossalini, an 11th generation True Lasombra,or
Lasombra "Anti-Tribu"--I appreciate having a site devoted to us few
antitribu Lasombra, though I prefer to title myself Giovanni, after
those who saved me from many years enslaved to the Sabbat. This page
look pretty attractive, my friend.
Sir Horne replies: It is indeed a sad state of affairs
when fellow True Lasombra use title themselves after other clans,
especially the Giovanni. Lady Rossalini, you indicate that you
were either at one time a member of the Sabbat, or were being
forced into the Sabbat. I do not care which it was, but what
worries me was that you NEEDED the Giovanni to help you escape
the Sabbat. Though it is true that I spent about 470 years under
the Eiger in Switzerland(yes,I did say UNDER), I have never been
in league with the Sabbat or even tempted by them. In 1493, when
the Sabbat movement began, I was one of the major players in the
debate. If you will look at my response to Sir Bouton, then you
will understand the true nature of myself, and, I hope, the clan
as a whole. I sympathize with you, M'lady, but I do not remember
you from the Battle, which I fought at. I still bear the scars
from those damned chains Gratiano put around my wrists, as do I
still hold the vision of Lasombra that allowed me to break those
chains and, temporarily, transcend the limits of my generation
and knowledge, and escape to Switzerland. You know nothing of
what the Sabbat can do, as you never saw the the Victory Corps,
my brothers at arms, lying in the throws of the Final Death,
or with stakes through their noble hearts. Cast aside you false
clan name and take up the proud banner of True Lasombra, for
even though you do not know what we truly stand for, you will
when you make your trip to Africa. Take my advice, go see Montano,
he will help you get back the pride and nobility you have lost
by taking up the name Giovanni instead of Lasombra.
11 July 1996,Jean-Paul Belmond,
a Kine who knows too much--Sire Horne, I'm glad I was told of your page.
I found some useful information, and some information I may find useful
at a later time. Since I'm just starting to learn everything a "vampire"
needs to know, I'm rather afraid I couldn't make heads or tails of most
of your page, especially the hitory. But, as a film maker, I would like
to know more about that great battle wrote of, when it "happened", where
and wht. You need to know that not only the Lasombra will see this page.
And by the way, you folks suffer from the worst case of megalomania I've
ever seen! I wish you were nicer, more like the Tremere.
Sir Horne Responds
Mr. Belmond, I hope you are being prepared for the Embrace, as
you do seem to be fairly intelligent. As to your curiosity over
the Battle, I am planning on creating a history page at a later date,
but I do not, at present, have the resources to make sure it is accurate.
Now, we Lasombra do NOT suffer from megalomania, as we ARE the ONE clan
that is best suited to rule. Not a single one of the older Lasombra is
of peasant stock. I am a Baronet, although the title does not really
have any importance to day. I have met Lasombra who were Kings and Emperors
during their day, as well as Dukes, Lords, Ladys, King's Thanes, etc. The
modern Lasombra, with this noble ancestry, are, of course, well versed in
affairs of state, such that the Clan is the one organization that SHOULD be in
charge of everything. Finally, watch out for the Tremere, they might be using you.
I know the Tremere would never use me because I could knock their heads off without
too much trouble.However, you, a poor mortal who knows too much, well, let us just
say that YOU are an expendable asset.
16 July 1996,Cristobal Machiavelli, an 8th Generation Sabbat Lasombra---
Alexander, you are truly one of the most pointless of the antitribu. An
antitribu who stands like a Lasombra, I will almost respect, before I run them
through. You however serve the infidels and therefore the antideluvians and
deserve none of my respect. But do have a pleasant evening regardless.
Sir Horne responds
You better be able to back up that threat, Machiavelli. Don't you EVER think that
a lowly EIGTH GENERATION could stand a chance against me. I have taken out
ENTIRE PACKS SINGLE HANDED, without even getting a scratch. And these where
the Packs of CARDINALS....Just TRY and back up your claim that you COULD run me
through....You'd be dead before you even draw your sword.
16 July 1996,Lucifer Zahn, A Lupine Glass Walker---
Pretty kewl page, for a bunch of filty Wyrm tainted leaches
Sir Horne comments
High praise coming from a Lupine. However, its spelled "leeches", not
"leaches." And,please, will those of you who post PLEASE leave LONGER messages,
as I type these in manually, and, unless the message is something good, I will
NOT post short messages. Any message to be posted should, using this length
format, take up at LEAST THREE lines. Also everything you type will be posted
EXACTLY as you wrote it(so try to keep spelling and grammar errors to a minumum,
and use profanity sparingly). This isn't censorship, this is just me saying that
any posts that are too short, or contain(in my opinion) extreme amounts of
profanity will not be posted, unless you give me a well thought out message
that makes the lenghth and/or profanity justified.(This is in the original
post, not a follow up.)
19 July 1996, Anarky Xx, a 7th Generation Anarch---
The Anrach site will become reality on July 30th. Check it out then, Now it
is the Old Clan Tzimisce page of which I am a member of that clan. But my
sentiments have changed. The revolution is growing, buy the ticket take the
19 July 1996, Don Rogliardi, 7th Generation Lasombra Antitribu---
I am glad that I have come across others, of our clan in the Camarilla. It's
hard work trying to be a child of Malkav.
Sir Horne responds
Ok, let me repeat myself here..WE ARE LASOMBRA!!!! We do NOT pretend to be
that which we are not. If you MUST pretend(for survival purposes only) to be
from another clan, ONLY the VENTRUE are similar enough to us in attitude
for us to successfully pull of the deception. If you are pretending to be
Malkavian, then you should take a good long look at yourself, and then
take a sun bath, for you are NOT worthy of the name Lasombra....
25 July 1996, Blackwing, an 11th Generation Lasombra Anti-Tribu---
Greets~ i'm glad 'xander, that you have made a place where we might find pride
in our blood and security in our family. a life of fear and flight is a waste
of an eternity. well met~ and hell to the hunters, ^^B^^
29 July 1996, Dermot O'Brian, 6th Generation Toreador---
You are the only one of you kind worthy enough to be allowed to live. Since you
have joined with us, obviously not all Lasombra can be that bad. We of the
Camarilla welcome you as our allies.
Sir Horne replies
Why, thank you Mr. O'Brian. I am glad that you believe that the Lasombra
Justicar is worthy of being allowed to live. I'll remember this if you
ever need a Prince's edict over turned. Also, I am glad to see the number of
anti-tribu who have found this site. I hope this site will continue to grow
as it has.
5 August 1996, Benjamin Ebonbane, a Wraith---
Lasombra have always interested, told by a Giovanni to avoid them like th'
plague, i of course sought them out instantly, at first i thought they
were Ventrue without a reflection ande pawns of th' Tzimisce, then my
attention was drawn to an antitribu, slowly manipulating his way through the
brisbane tremere. th' only other i could remember having achieved this was a
malkavian who was later put to th' torch, i watched for a while but had to
turn turn away when i saw th' chatry leader read his tell tale aura. i must
say i felt regret for th' poor fool who had quite obviously underestimated
th' shockinly harsh tremere. i left to sydney that, avoiding that accursed
Giovanni for ever i had thought. drawn bakk in later years by rumour that
he had been killed by a kindred called Haclav, th' lasombra that i had
followed! not only that though his name was followed by the title;"head
of th' brisbane chantry"! i had to see it, so i traveled bakk, sure enough
there upon th' tremeres precious metaphorical throne was Haclav, i came to
him that night i promised him alliance for th' mere ability to observe his
rule ande for him to hunt down th' Giovanni. of course i try to keep hold
of that little tidbit of his actual clan.
Sir Horne Responds
Uh...Benjamin, Tremere do come to this site....I hope Haclav isn't a friend
of yours, as he is most likely going to die soon...I say this because you
just revealed Haclav's clan to EVERY kindred that comes through here...
This would have been mor appropriate to the politics page, where anonymity
is enforced(unless you changed the names in this story, to protect the
guilty). But I do agree with how you responded to the Giovanni:"Avoid
the Lasombra Like the plague!!" "OK, HEY where can I find some Lasombra?!"
7 August 1996,Nathaniel Blaze, 8th generation Lasombra Anti-tribu---
It's quite a pleasant surprise to see that we're finally getting the
recognition that we deserve. The Camarilla has my admiration for such a
noble act. Now we can finally emerge from the shadows...
7 August 1996, Jocasta DeLaurent, a Sabbat Lasombra---
So the weak have decided to show themselves at last. And in the Camarilla,
no less! It figures... if any of you had enough sense, you would have stayed
hidden under the rock you crawled out of. As it is, the Lasombra of the
Sabbat now know where we can find you. and not even the Inner Council can
13 August 1996, Donaires Lopez, 7th Generation Lasombra antitribu---
Sir HorneI was a baron of a small barony in Spain in the years of 1200-1428
(mortal puppets are great) I have defended the kine from insolent upstarts
such as the Sabbat for centuries These vampires don't know what it means to
be kindred all they want is to control or kill the kine. The kine should be
guided to greater ends and protected. I make a point of not protecting the
poor souls who bring violence to the kine or my fellow kindred though. Most
vampires seem not to understand and to underestimate are fellow supernatural
cousins. I also like to understand the other clans histories and ledgends
because knowing your fellows makes guiding them easier. I say guiding
because as you pointed out a true ruler does not rule by force alone. Oh and
while the Tremere may be upstarts they actually can make good friends
14 August 1996, Anson, a 12th generation Anarch Brujah---
No one group can be perfect. You propose that having the blood of those who
never had it hard makes you perfect!? Your ex-clan mates have proven your
point wrong! Like a spring, your underlings will rise-up with the force to
topple even the mightiest foe! Keep your vile shadows and power games to
your-selves! I hope your utter defeat allows you to feel a taiste of the pain
you've cuased! We will not allow you games to continue, as they did in Carthage!
Those who don't change become are doomed!
Sir Horne retorts
Anson, you have no idea what you are talking about! First, as a Baronet I had
the training of a knight, which was not easy. Second, ALL of the older Lasombra
are from Nobility. This doesn't make us perfect, and some of us really didn't
have a hard life as mortals. HOWEVER, we are the best clan for rulers, as all
of us have any state craft knowledge we knew as mortals, and any knowledge our
sires passed on to us. Third, it was the VENTRUE not the Lasombra who razed
Carthage. NO LASOMBRA in his right mind would have destroyed a city ruled
by the two most powerful WARRIOR clans(Brujah and Toreador). If you don't
believe the Toreador are a warrior clan, watch one who knows how to use his
disciplines fight, and you'll see an undefeated warrior in action. Finally,
the attack on Carthage was totally unnecessary, as Carthage had already lost
the capacity to fight back. The Thid Punic War was an act of spite by the
COWARDLY Ventrue. Only the Ventrue would attack an opponent when he's down,
which is not only what they did in Carthage, but also what they did to a
Gangrel friend of mine. For a Brujah, you believed the lies the Ventrue told
you very well.